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AI · October 21, 2024

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We wrote a book on LLM system evals with a bear and fox

Hey all! @sridatta and I wrote a book/zine called Forest Friends on system evals for LLM-driven apps. But it's a bit more whimsical, a bit more visual, and very much inspired by the meme of LLMs being a shoggoth polished into a smiley face with RLHF. LLM system evals are important as companies move past the flashy AI demos to reliable production apps. System evals keep coming up as the answer for what you "should do", but it's not exactly a standard part of the software engineering toolkit. So we pulled from @sridatta's seven years as a research engineer at Google, plus a ton of best…

We wrote a book on LLM system evals with a bear and fox launched on October 21, 2024 with 11 votes, #1,114 of 5,185 launches that month and more than 75% of that year's launches.

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Forest Friends is a visual guide and zine on system evaluations for large language model applications. Created by researchers with experience in AI evaluation, it covers how to test and measure LLM-driven products in production environments. The guide is designed for software teams building reliable AI applications who need practical evaluation methods beyond initial demos. It combines technical expertise with an accessible, illustrated format to explain system evals as a standard engineering practice.

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Hey all! @sridatta and I wrote a book/zine called Forest Friends on system evals for LLM-driven apps. But it's a bit more whimsical, a bit more visual, and very much inspired by the meme of LLMs being a shoggoth polished into a smiley face with RLHF. LLM system evals are important as companies move past the…

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